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CansaFis Foote's avatar

…an idea kicking around in my head these days is the beautiful ugly or ugly beautiful or ugly ugly etc. - the idea being what happens when we let little mistakes happen and accept them…there is something poetic about apple’s iterations becoming increasingly non innovative, boring, staid alongside the death of the jazz…innovation requires real improv, and as a fandom of the brotzmann’s of the world real free jazz is scary and wild and alive and raw and mean and ugly…would love to see it embraced more…some of my favorite concerts…

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Chao Lam's avatar

Innovation requires real improv - that slaps! At the same time, I am wondering how will improv will change in our age of ai: are hallucinations machines feeble attempts at improv?

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CansaFis Foote's avatar

...i think the ugly mistakes of a.i. are certainly what interest me the most (thinking the grotesque alien memery or people making new monsters, etc. ...but all of it still feels memetic...i don't see a.i. pulling off improv, but maybe that is what a.g.i. will be?...free jazz at scale...will the world react with awe, or as I used to see at the clubs I managed, by walking out the door with their fingers in their ears?...

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Kathy Ayers's avatar

You describe jazz like Sebastian in La La Land if you saw that. There’s a wondrous aliveness in improv.

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Kathy Ayers's avatar

Chao, this is astonishing. I thought this was generated or at least modified with AI because every word was perfectly well-placed. The fact that you implicate yourself in Apple’s similar crime, then show the AI prompt, then say it’s all basically illusion and you were pretending to be a real insider……this perfectly shows today’s reality. Lines are blurred between reality and fantasy and it’s getting harder to distinguish them. Will it be impossible one day soon? Is it already? Will people even stop caring and accept AI as reality?

This was a wild, thought-provoking and yes, uncomfortably perfect read in a perfect display of where we are today. Absolutely fascinating.

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Chao Lam's avatar

Thanks, Kathy! I feel so seen - and no I don’t have any answers

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Christin Chong, PhD's avatar

oh wait i thought you were really there XD;;;;

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Chao Lam's avatar

Maybe one day - wearing an Apple vision headset!

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Larry Urish's avatar

Chao, this is really impressive!

It would've been easier to *tell* us about the balance between human fallibility vs. digital perfection, how we want the latter but still yearn for a deeply human experience, but instead you *show* us this dilemma, as a tech insider, through a series of riveting stories. Well done!

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Chao Lam's avatar

Thanks, Larry - this is such an interesting perspective and I wished I could say I had planned the architecture of this piece just as you describe - yes, this ambiguity in these weird times is what I'm both enjoy and wrestling with!

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Will Mannon's avatar

Appreciate the shoutout Chao!

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